Nate

NateP Home

NodeID
!9ea07cc8
Channel
MediumFast
HW Model
HELTEC_V3
Role
CLIENT
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NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3423806739 🔎
Import Time
11:44:32 PM - 11-24-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3423806739
rx_time: 1764056671
rx_snr: -7.25
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -73
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 252
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1764056667
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
299796754 🔎
Import Time
11:21:35 PM - 11-24-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TELEMETRY_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 299796754
rx_time: 1764055294
rx_snr: -12.25
hop_limit: 3
rx_rssi: -88
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 184
payload
time: 1764055290
device_metrics {
  battery_level: 27
  voltage: 3.507
  channel_utilization: 1.5033333
  air_util_tx: 0.7735556
  uptime_seconds: 1061539
}
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3406520590 🔎
Import Time
9:58:01 PM - 11-24-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3406520590
rx_time: 1764050280
rx_snr: -10.25
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -74
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 252
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1764050277
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2953092365 🔎
Import Time
9:17:35 PM - 11-24-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2953092365
rx_time: 1764047854
rx_snr: -6.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -75
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 252
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1764047847
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2903380091 🔎
Import Time
6:29:16 PM - 11-21-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2903380091
rx_time: 1763778556
rx_snr: 0.5
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -74
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 252
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763778550
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
1613190249 🔎
Import Time
9:28:50 AM - 11-21-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 1613190249
rx_time: 1763746130
rx_snr: -10.5
hop_limit: 3
rx_rssi: -87
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 184
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763746127
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
270841738 🔎
Import Time
11:47:56 AM - 11-17-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 270841738
rx_time: 1763408875
rx_snr: 12.25
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -60
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763408870
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3393915773 🔎
Import Time
6:18:23 AM - 11-17-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3393915773
rx_time: 1763389102
rx_snr: 13.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -60
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763389098
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
AD6DM Gateway(!84887ed8) NateP Home(!9ea07cc8)
1841756997 🔎
Import Time
6:18:23 AM - 11-17-2025
packet
from: 2223537880
to: 2661317832
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 1841756997
rx_time: 1763389102
hop_limit: 3
priority: BACKGROUND
hop_start: 3
relay_node: 216
payload
id: "!84887ed8"
long_name: "AD6DM Gateway"
short_name: "DM1G"
macaddr: "x!\204\210~\330"
hw_model: TBEAM
role: CLIENT_MUTE
public_key: "\204\252;\243\272z\272\206\343\\\347l5\021Ch\177\314\350Ef\356\314\305\232\276\214\366#\337rH"
KF6DMA Roof Node Original 🏚️(!b29faa6c) NateP Home(!9ea07cc8)
2000694674 🔎
Import Time
12:35:02 PM - 11-16-2025
packet
from: 2996808300
to: 2661317832
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 2000694674
rx_time: 1763325301
rx_snr: 10.5
hop_limit: 4
rx_rssi: -60
hop_start: 7
relay_node: 97
payload
id: "!b29faa6c"
long_name: "KF6DMA Roof Node Original 🏚️"
short_name: "ROOF"
macaddr: "\200\361\262\237\252l"
hw_model: HELTEC_V4
role: CLIENT_BASE
public_key: "\365\324i\370`\2556iE\246y\241\267\362\277\341\007f\366\002\362\204ss&\347K\303o\351\317X"
is_unmessagable: false
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
1526185819 🔎
Import Time
12:34:59 PM - 11-16-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 1526185819
rx_time: 1763325298
rx_snr: 11.75
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -60
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763325294
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2192172886 🔎
Import Time
10:12:19 AM - 11-16-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TELEMETRY_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2192172886
rx_time: 1763316738
rx_snr: 11.5
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -61
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
time: 1763316728
device_metrics {
  battery_level: 101
  voltage: 4.27
  channel_utilization: 0.29
  air_util_tx: 0.48505557
  uptime_seconds: 322977
}
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
1934295874 🔎
Import Time
4:53:01 AM - 11-16-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TELEMETRY_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 1934295874
rx_time: 1763297581
rx_snr: -10.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -85
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 184
payload
time: 1763297575
device_metrics {
  battery_level: 101
  voltage: 4.269
  channel_utilization: 5.355
  air_util_tx: 0.45427778
  uptime_seconds: 303824
}
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3000828734 🔎
Import Time
3:48:54 AM - 11-16-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3000828734
rx_time: 1763293734
rx_snr: 14.0
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -59
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763293729
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
1689086760 🔎
Import Time
8:33:25 PM - 11-15-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 1689086760
rx_time: 1763267605
rx_snr: 13.75
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -59
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763267598
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
263504663 🔎
Import Time
4:11:15 PM - 11-15-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TELEMETRY_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 263504663
rx_time: 1763251875
rx_snr: 13.75
rx_rssi: -59
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
time: 1763251862
device_metrics {
  battery_level: 101
  voltage: 4.275
  channel_utilization: 5.605
  air_util_tx: 0.4435
  uptime_seconds: 258111
}
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2988889770 🔎
Import Time
3:53:16 PM - 11-14-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2988889770
rx_time: 1763164395
rx_snr: -13.0
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -89
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 132
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763164376
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
356737658 🔎
Import Time
10:43:38 AM - 11-14-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 356737658
rx_time: 1763145817
rx_snr: -13.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -83
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763145606
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
856369767 🔎
Import Time
8:17:41 AM - 11-14-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 856369767
rx_time: 1763137061
rx_snr: -14.0
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -83
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763137027
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
936857126 🔎
Import Time
10:22:11 PM - 11-13-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 936857126
rx_time: 1763101331
rx_snr: -2.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -84
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763101324
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
1723413016 🔎
Import Time
8:15:43 PM - 11-13-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 1723413016
rx_time: 1763093742
rx_snr: -8.5
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -85
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 184
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763093738
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
417645055 🔎
Import Time
4:06:14 PM - 11-13-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 417645055
rx_time: 1763078773
rx_snr: 13.5
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -59
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763078750
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
187795956 🔎
Import Time
1:44:52 PM - 11-13-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 187795956
rx_time: 1763070292
rx_snr: -8.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -86
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763070266
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
Genentech G1(!ab2e0680) NateP Home(!9ea07cc8)
355717717 🔎
Import Time
7:45:22 AM - 11-13-2025
packet
from: 2871920256
to: 2661317832
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TRACEROUTE_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 355717717
rx_time: 1763048722
rx_snr: -13.5
hop_limit: 4
want_ack: true
rx_rssi: -82
hop_start: 7
relay_node: 4
payload
graph 
route: 3127310320
route: 1652206918
route: 2733326860
route: 2687837700
snr_towards: -50
snr_towards: -31
snr_towards: -26
snr_towards: -35
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3012520407 🔎
Import Time
7:41:00 AM - 11-13-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3012520407
rx_time: 1763048460
rx_snr: -8.0
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -89
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 184
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763048411
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3060082090 🔎
Import Time
7:23:44 PM - 11-12-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3060082090
rx_time: 1763004223
rx_snr: -14.5
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -82
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1763004213
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2063968584 🔎
Import Time
8:26:06 AM - 11-12-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2063968584
rx_time: 1762964765
rx_snr: -13.25
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -82
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
id: "!9ea07cc8"
long_name: "NateP Home"
short_name: "Nate"
macaddr: "\234\023\236\240|\310"
hw_model: HELTEC_V3
public_key: "\220\021\254l\335\2356\361+\234\266ztrUl$\372\027\356\352\252\356~n\335_\270q\247\371|"
is_unmessagable: false
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3389041969 🔎
Import Time
11:56:08 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3389041969
rx_time: 1762934168
rx_snr: -5.25
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -79
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1762934159
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
603740455 🔎
Import Time
7:49:18 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 603740455
rx_time: 1762919357
rx_snr: -7.25
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -88
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 132
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1762919354
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2928652548 🔎
Import Time
7:15:37 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2928652548
rx_time: 1762917336
rx_snr: -7.75
hop_limit: 2
rx_rssi: -88
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 132
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1762917329
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2700275935 🔎
Import Time
6:40:18 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2700275935
rx_time: 1762915217
rx_snr: -2.0
rx_rssi: -87
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 108
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1762915190
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (!fdc1f975)
1785274470 🔎
Import Time
3:10:09 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4257347957
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 1785274470
rx_time: 1762902608
rx_snr: -11.75
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -81
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
id: "!9ea07cc8"
long_name: "NateP Home"
short_name: "Nate"
macaddr: "\234\023\236\240|\310"
hw_model: HELTEC_V3
public_key: "\220\021\254l\335\2356\361+\234\266ztrUl$\372\027\356\352\252\356~n\335_\270q\247\371|"
is_unmessagable: false
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) KF6DMA | http://bayme.sh(!7f32e186)
100614207 🔎
Import Time
2:43:06 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 2134040966
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 100614207
rx_time: 1762900985
rx_snr: -1.75
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -81
hop_start: 6
next_hop: 132
relay_node: 4
payload
id: "!9ea07cc8"
long_name: "NateP Home"
short_name: "Nate"
macaddr: "\234\023\236\240|\310"
hw_model: HELTEC_V3
public_key: "\220\021\254l\335\2356\361+\234\266ztrUl$\372\027\356\352\252\356~n\335_\270q\247\371|"
is_unmessagable: false
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
2741712936 🔎
Import Time
2:26:34 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TELEMETRY_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 2741712936
rx_time: 1762899994
rx_snr: 4.0
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -81
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 4
payload
time: 1762899982
device_metrics {
  battery_level: 87
  voltage: 4.033
  channel_utilization: 7.0716662
  air_util_tx: 0.012250001
  uptime_seconds: 61
}
eink dev desk(!97058dac) NateP Home(!9ea07cc8)
308517462 🔎
Import Time
2:26:12 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2533723564
to: 2661317832
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: TRACEROUTE_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 308517462
rx_time: 1762899971
rx_snr: -11.75
hop_limit: 2
want_ack: true
rx_rssi: -81
hop_start: 7
relay_node: 4
payload
graph 
route: 2733327052
route: 3127310320
route: 415094630
route: 1652206918
route: 2733326860
route: 2687837700
snr_towards: 45
snr_towards: -30
snr_towards: -21
snr_towards: -32
snr_towards: -27
snr_towards: -6
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
3348618276 🔎
Import Time
2:26:07 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 3348618276
rx_time: 1762899966
rx_snr: 13.25
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -59
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 97
payload
id: "!9ea07cc8"
long_name: "NateP Home"
short_name: "Nate"
macaddr: "\234\023\236\240|\310"
hw_model: HELTEC_V3
public_key: "\220\021\254l\335\2356\361+\234\266ztrUl$\372\027\356\352\252\356~n\335_\270q\247\371|"
is_unmessagable: false
KF6DMA Roof Node Original 🏚️(!b29faa6c) NateP Home(!9ea07cc8)
4085113236 🔎
Import Time
2:21:02 PM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2996808300
to: 2661317832
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: NODEINFO_APP
  want_response: true
  bitfield: 3
}
id: 4085113236
rx_time: 1762899662
rx_snr: -9.0
hop_limit: 6
rx_rssi: -78
hop_start: 7
relay_node: 4
payload
id: "!b29faa6c"
long_name: "KF6DMA Roof | https://bayme.sh"
short_name: "ROOF"
macaddr: "\200\361\262\237\252l"
hw_model: HELTEC_V4
role: CLIENT_BASE
public_key: "\365\324i\370`\2556iE\246y\241\267\362\277\341\007f\366\002\362\204ss&\347K\303o\351\317X"
is_unmessagable: false
NateP Home(!9ea07cc8) (^all)
1696983057 🔎
Import Time
11:13:50 AM - 11-11-2025
packet
from: 2661317832
to: 4294967295
channel: 31
decoded {
  portnum: POSITION_APP
  bitfield: 1
}
id: 1696983057
rx_time: 1762888430
rx_snr: -14.5
hop_limit: 1
rx_rssi: -93
hop_start: 6
relay_node: 184
payload
latitude_i: 377946112
longitude_i: -1224409088
altitude: 21
time: 1762888420
location_source: LOC_MANUAL
ground_speed: 0
ground_track: 0
precision_bits: 15

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